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SupaFruit
07-18-2008, 04:16 PM
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll221/SupaFruit/JokerSig.jpg

The text doesn't fit, it's probably off color. I stole the background from a tutorial on google. Image of the joker isn't very well cropped. It looks messy. I know. You could bag on it forever. When I start doing real ones, they'll be better, the text will fit, I'll hopefully mess around and have my own background, I'll touch it up yaddayadda yadda.

What do you think? I think I took care of the layers quite well for not understanding them at all this morning.

KalashnikoV
07-18-2008, 04:19 PM
It's more than I do.

I just render up some bull**** in Oxidizer and then throw some poorly done text effects on it.

CarMan1390
07-18-2008, 04:19 PM
I think the joker image looks really good. I agree that the text doesn't fit. Try making the font Verdana or Arial or some sans-serif font like those. And maybe make the font the shade of red that the background has.

loggerbomb
07-18-2008, 04:28 PM
It's a decent start.

SupaFruit
07-18-2008, 04:34 PM
It's more than I do.

I just render up some bull**** in Oxidizer and then throw some poorly done text effects on it.
Oxidizer?

I think the joker image looks really good. I agree that the text doesn't fit. Try making the font Verdana or Arial or some sans-serif font like those. And maybe make the font the shade of red that the background has.

Thanks. I just threw the text on. Most of them look the same. And I love the Color Cyan so I didn't bother to change it. I might go back so I can use it.

EDIT: Nevermind I keep Tuomas's until I make a better one or can change this one. His is better so he deserves to have it on here anyway.

KalashnikoV
07-18-2008, 04:35 PM
Oxidizer?



Thanks. I just threw the text on. Most of them look the same. And I love the Color Cyan so I didn't bother to change it. I might go back so I can use it.

It's a homebrew'd piece of mac freeware that I use for rendering fractal flames. I post process and turn them to a signature (if desired) in PS, though.

Toxic
07-18-2008, 05:04 PM
Pick a higher quality-picture next time. The Joker looks all affected by the .jpeg-demon compared to the background.

Good start, though.

LedHead
07-18-2008, 05:55 PM
Secret to the perfect text color:

http://whatsitscolor.com/

Save a copy of the sig before you add the text, upload it there, and use either one of the complimentary colors it gives you for the text.

Look for better fonts on free download sites, too. I'd go with a good grungey looking one for this sig.

http://www.1001freefonts.com/

SupaFruit
07-18-2008, 10:43 PM
It's a homebrew'd piece of mac freeware that I use for rendering fractal flames. I post process and turn them to a signature (if desired) in PS, though.
How do I get/get to this?

Pick a higher quality-picture next time. The Joker looks all affected by the .jpeg-demon compared to the background.

Good start, though.
I know. I wasn't going all out on it though. I'll make the next one better, no worries.

Secret to the perfect text color:

http://whatsitscolor.com/

Save a copy of the sig before you add the text, upload it there, and use either one of the complimentary colors it gives you for the text.

Look for better fonts on free download sites, too. I'd go with a good grungey looking one for this sig.

http://www.1001freefonts.com/

Thanks for the tips.

Question: How do I add a border to my sig? Both of just a normal plain color border, and how would I add a more complex one...take IDK waves for example. They might be the same but I though there could be an easier way to add a simple color line border if possible. Not paintbrushed or anything.

UzumakiNaruto77
07-18-2008, 10:47 PM
Its a very good sig SF.

kirbinator
07-18-2008, 10:51 PM
Yes, I like it also.

KalashnikoV
07-18-2008, 10:56 PM
How do I get/get to this?


I know. I wasn't going all out on it though. I'll make the next one better, no worries.



Thanks for the tips.

Question: How do I add a border to my sig? Both of just a normal plain color border, and how would I add a more complex one...take IDK waves for example. They might be the same but I though there could be an easier way to add a simple color line border if possible. Not paintbrushed or anything.

For simple borders, just go to Edit>Stroke. Pick "inside." For most signatures, a simple 1 px normal black stroke will work fine.

You can also try things like framing a signature in a 3-5 px linear dodge or combining various strokes of various widths, colors, and opacities to get a slightly more complex look.

kapono24
07-19-2008, 12:31 AM
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll221/SupaFruit/JokerSig.jpg

The text doesn't fit, it's probably off color. I stole the background from a tutorial on google. Image of the joker isn't very well cropped. It looks messy. I know. You could bag on it forever. When I start doing real ones, they'll be better, the text will fit, I'll hopefully mess around and have my own background, I'll touch it up yaddayadda yadda.

What do you think? I think I took care of the layers quite well for not understanding them at all this morning.

It's is very good for first try. Though it has nothing to do with your sig, I just can't seem to take The Joker seriously in this movie because of how much he looks like Doink the Clown.

pieking999
07-19-2008, 12:41 AM
Very good, SupaFruit, very good.

Mafiaisco
07-19-2008, 02:02 AM
Wow. Just slap a random background on it and write in blue text.

KalashnikoV
07-19-2008, 02:29 AM
You should look at some tutorials for beginner-intermediate sigs. Even if you're like me and too proud to just use other people's instructions to make an appealing signature, they're a good way to learn different tools and how you can use them.

SupaFruit
07-19-2008, 04:32 AM
For simple borders, just go to Edit>Stroke. Pick "inside." For most signatures, a simple 1 px normal black stroke will work fine.

You can also try things like framing a signature in a 3-5 px linear dodge or combining various strokes of various widths, colors, and opacities to get a slightly more complex look.
Thanks, I'll be sure to try it. That actually helped a lot knowing this. Hard to realate without PS on this computer though.

It's is very good for first try. Though it has nothing to do with your sig, I just can't seem to take The Joker seriously in this movie because of how much he looks like Doink the Clown.
You know the actor died right after the movie was finished? Overdose. If I wasn't so tired, I'd post an article.

Wow. Just slap a random background on it and write in blue text.
None of them are much more. It's my first anyway and I said I knew the text sucks. I'm changing it when I get back to my house. Might be a day or two.

You should look at some tutorials for beginner-intermediate sigs. Even if you're like me and too proud to just use other people's instructions to make an appealing signature, they're a good way to learn different tools and how you can use them.
I'm not too proud, I just hate reading stuff which I'll probably only end up copying. I learn faster experimenting with a little help. (You guys)

You never mentioned about the Oxidizer thing.

LordPwn
07-19-2008, 10:09 AM
In every tutorial I've seen, the people that make the sigs always say they found out about a cool technique by just messing around. Is it what you must do.

Also, a good substitute for Oxidizer on Mac is Apophysis for Windows. Try it.

EDIT: Pakman sez: Supa that's a pretty ****ty sig.

fluffy0812
07-19-2008, 12:10 PM
I agree that the text doesn't fit, but its a nice start.

This just makes me think about your old avatar.

KalashnikoV
07-19-2008, 01:11 PM
*thread steal*

Here's my first "traditional" sig. It's kind of a cop-out, but at least I didn't go to DeviantArt and download a bunch of ****ty brushes to do it.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h167/kalashnikov1947/MGS4Signature.png

The border's a little ****ed up, but I don't really care enough to fix it.

Oh, and on the subject of borders: SupaFruit, your results will be best if you create a new layer for the border (usually the top) and do the stroke there.

SupaFruit
07-19-2008, 04:05 PM
In every tutorial I've seen, the people that make the sigs always say they found out about a cool technique by just messing around. Is it what you must do.

Also, a good substitute for Oxidizer on Mac is Apophysis for Windows. Try it.

EDIT: Pakman sez: Supa that's a pretty ****ty sig.
Apophysis. Do I need to download or anything?

I could guess pakman would say something like that.

I agree that the text doesn't fit, but its a nice start.

This just makes me think about your old avatar.
What avatar?

*thread steal*

Here's my first "traditional" sig. It's kind of a cop-out, but at least I didn't go to DeviantArt and download a bunch of ****ty brushes to do it.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h167/kalashnikov1947/MGS4Signature.png

The border's a little ****ed up, but I don't really care enough to fix it.

Oh, and on the subject of borders: SupaFruit, your results will be best if you create a new layer for the border (usually the top) and do the stroke there.
Yeah. I would anyway. You're actually good with real sigs. I kinda want to get more info from you guys, which is why I'm asking so many questions, before I get deep into this. Here's another, what's the background for that sig? A picture or did you make it?

Cop-out?

EDIT: I think for practice, I'll make my brother a spray for CS:S. It'll get me more used to it.

KalashnikoV
07-19-2008, 04:09 PM
Apophysis. Do I need to download or anything?

I could guess pakman would say something like that.


What avatar?


Yeah. I would anyway. You're actually good with real sigs. I kinda want to get more info from you guys, which is why I'm asking so many questions, before I get deep into this.

Cop-out?

EDIT: I think for practice, I'll make my brother a spray for CS:S. It'll get me more used to it.

Yeah, I really didn't do much at all aside of brushing out a background and playing with layer styles. So basically, I just pasted some images on a texture and colored it.

SupaFruit
07-19-2008, 04:12 PM
Yeah, I really didn't do much at all aside of brushing out a background and playing with layer styles. So basically, I just pasted some images on a texture and colored it.

It's still neat. Not like taking more time and doing it right gets you more credit right?

The one you have now is neat too. What is the image you keep putting in your signatures?

KalashnikoV
07-19-2008, 04:13 PM
It's still neat. Not like taking more time and doing it right gets you more credit right?

The one you have now is neat too. What is the image you keep putting in your signatures?

Those are fractals I render with Oxidizer. You could be a pussy and just google some C4D's for the same effect, but you'd be way cooler if you downloaded Apophysis (http://www.apophysis.org/) and made your own.

LedHead
07-19-2008, 04:19 PM
Those are fractals I render with Oxidizer. You could be a pussy and just google some C4D's for the same effect, but you'd be way cooler if you downloaded Apophysis (http://www.apophysis.org/) and made your own.

That program looks badass, but confusing to use. Is it?

SupaFruit
07-19-2008, 04:20 PM
Those are fractals I render with Oxidizer. You could be a pussy and just google some C4D's for the same effect, but you'd be way cooler if you downloaded Apophysis (http://www.apophysis.org/) and made your own.

I hate stealing stuff like that anyway. I just used a tutorial for my first sig because it helped me understand filters and it fit.

Thanks for the link.

Here's the image I'm working with for a spray for my bro. If you see anything I could do with it, please say.

http://www.theninemuses.net/art/sandman/death.jpg

KalashnikoV
07-19-2008, 04:57 PM
That program looks badass, but confusing to use. Is it?

I don't know, I don't use Apophysis.

If it's anything like Oxidizer, though, it's easy to generate a random fractal, but it takes a lot of work to get to the point where you actually know what you're doing.

Edit: I tried another that was inspired by some tutorials I looked at, but I didn't like it very much. Back to figuring things out by trial and error, I guess.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h167/kalashnikov1947/ThisSigSucks.png

SupaFruit
07-19-2008, 10:45 PM
I don't know, I don't use Apophysis.

If it's anything like Oxidizer, though, it's easy to generate a random fractal, but it takes a lot of work to get to the point where you actually know what you're doing.

Edit: I tried another that was inspired by some tutorials I looked at, but I didn't like it very much. Back to figuring things out by trial and error, I guess.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h167/kalashnikov1947/ThisSigSucks.png

Screw tutorials. Trail and error is where it's at. The sig is badass except for the fact that the image is almost hidden in the background.

The Apophysis is confusing. What did you do for the background of the sig above? I'm not copying for these I'm curious to how that works.

withouthands
07-19-2008, 10:53 PM
Screw tutorials. Trail and error is where it's at. The sig is badass except for the fact that the image is almost hidden in the background.

The Apophysis is confusing. What did you do for the background of the sig above? I'm not copying for these I'm curious to how that works.

Well, you need a few tutorials to help you get going, but then when you know the basics, you can just mess around with everything.

My current sig was made by doing that.

SupaFruit
07-19-2008, 10:58 PM
Is that the Majora's Mask? I've never played the game more than an hour over 6 years ago.

See, what I really want is one good, basic overview to get me started. Just enough to screw around.

But to screw around, I really only want to figure out you make special designed backgrounds. Not the Oxidizer or Apophysis...but like the ones in my first sig. I copyed it so I'm not sure.

Screw around with the filters?

EDIT: How do you download fonts and use them?

KalashnikoV
07-19-2008, 11:11 PM
Is that the Majora's Mask? I've never played the game more than an hour over 6 years ago.

See, what I really want is one good, basic overview to get me started. Just enough to screw around.

But to screw around, I really only want to figure out you make special designed backgrounds. Not the Oxidizer or Apophysis...but like the ones in my first sig. I copyed it so I'm not sure.

Screw around with the filters?

EDIT: How do you download fonts and use them?

Tutorials almost always include steps for making a background for that style. Most of the time it's just Render>Clouds and then a bunch of brushes that do the work for them. Bastards.

SupaFruit
07-19-2008, 11:14 PM
Tutorials almost always include steps for making a background for that style. Most of the time it's just Render>Clouds and then a bunch of brushes that do the work for them. Bastards.

Clouds was how my background was. Only no brushes. Unless you mean the filters.

EDIT:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll221/SupaFruit/JokerSig2-1.jpg

Here's my new one. I'll be screwing with the Joker, since he's such an inspiring icon and as a tribute to Heath Ledger. He did great in Knights Tale, and I hope he did great in Batman. Waiting to see it.

Tuomas
07-20-2008, 12:31 AM
Very nice, SupaFruit, that's better than the crap I make, that's for sure.
But just a tip on your new one, I seea border on your image, but the image of the Joker overlaps that border, thus removes points from your score.

kapono24
07-20-2008, 12:33 AM
Clouds was how my background was. Only no brushes. Unless you mean the filters.

EDIT:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll221/SupaFruit/JokerSig2-1.jpg

Here's my new one. I'll be screwing with the Joker, since he's such an inspiring icon and as a tribute to Heath Ledger. He did great in Knights Tale, and I hope he did great in Batman. Waiting to see it.

That one looks better. Though, like Tuomas pointed out, the pretty pink boarder kinda takes away from it a bit.

withouthands
07-20-2008, 12:35 AM
That one looks better. Though, like Tuomas pointed out, the pretty pink boarder kinda takes away from it a bit.

Not to mention it's on the wrong layer.

The boarder should have it's own layer. Which reminds me, I need to fix that in my sig.

KalashnikoV
07-20-2008, 12:45 AM
Clouds was how my background was. Only no brushes. Unless you mean the filters.

EDIT:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll221/SupaFruit/JokerSig2-1.jpg

Here's my new one. I'll be screwing with the Joker, since he's such an inspiring icon and as a tribute to Heath Ledger. He did great in Knights Tale, and I hope he did great in Batman. Waiting to see it.

It's an improvement, but I'm still going to tear it apart just for the sake of constructive criticism.

The text:
While the color better fits than in your first attempt, it is a bit tough to make out against the background. For future reference, you can make the text a little more visually important by going to Layer>Layer Style and adding either a shadow or a glow. Short of that, it's all just in the patience of finding which colors and fonts work best with the image.

The background:
Usually, if you're going to have a sig with a render/focal point, you shouldn't have too complex or distracting a background. Just use some mild texturing (grunge or smudge styles are notable) done in complementary colors to your image. Once again, though, it's a step above your first try.

The render:
There's really not much wrong with the joker. Do note, however, that if you get a bad crop or rough edges it's useful to zoom in and use the blur tool on a weak setting to smooth them out. I had to do this to clean up some pixelated edges in the MGS4 sig.

Border:
I'm going to be a rebel and support the Joker being in a layer above the border. My only critique is that the pink border doesn't stand out much from the background, which sort of defeats the purpose. Then again, I've ****ed up my borders a lot so far so I don't have much room to talk.

Screw tutorials. Trail and error is where it's at. The sig is badass except for the fact that the image is almost hidden in the background.

The Apophysis is confusing. What did you do for the background of the sig above? I'm not copying for these I'm curious to how that works.

I duplicated the render a couple of times and smudged/filtered the hell out of it. I'm not entirely fond of this tactic.

Mafiaisco
07-20-2008, 12:51 AM
Clouds was how my background was. Only no brushes. Unless you mean the filters.

EDIT:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll221/SupaFruit/JokerSig2-1.jpg

Here's my new one. I'll be screwing with the Joker, since he's such an inspiring icon and as a tribute to Heath Ledger. He did great in Knights Tale, and I hope he did great in Batman. Waiting to see it.

I am not going to lie, that's ugly as hell.

Tuomas
07-20-2008, 12:52 AM
Border:
I'm going to be a rebel and support the Joker being in a layer above the border. My only critique is that the pink border doesn't stand out much from the background, which sort of defeats the purpose. Then again, I've ****ed up my borders a lot so far so I don't have much room to talk.

I agree with everything you said exept for the border. I took the liberty to fix the sig for him, and add a border over the Joker.

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8807/jokersig21copyet8.png

While the border isn't that great, (I mean, c'mon, it's pink) I prefer having the border over the Joker. My main dislike for the border is that it's such a light colour, and that it also blends into the top-right corner of the background. But alas, we all have different tastes in art, don't we?

KalashnikoV
07-20-2008, 12:58 AM
I am not going to lie, that's ugly as hell.

If nothing else, you're honest.

Mafiaisco
07-20-2008, 01:04 AM
If nothing else, you're honest.
Well it is.

Have the background relate to the Joker or something don't chose random colors.

SupaFruit
07-20-2008, 11:56 AM
Guys, thanks. The more you bag on it, the more I improve. I'm a million times happier than hearing it is just good. I'll respond in order, but I don't feel like quoting.

The border overlapping, was something I couldn't help as a stupid noob. I know it needs to go on the top, but the problem was that I didn't have anything to border. So I now realize I'd just put like some sort of transparent layer on and border that. But I really think in this case, it was fine both ways. Because when I was making it, the workspace was gray so You had the black on the left and it almost looked like the pink was only bordering the black. It was a cool effect until I posted it lolz. But not all borders need to stick out. It helps it fit in. A normal black border would just be there. The pink fits in with the white of the paper.

As for pretty pink, I really just went with White+Red=Pink and the Joker's face. I didn't get too deep into the colors.

For the text, I know it blended but I thought it was more artistic that just Lime Green popping out at you. I actually looked for something to border the text, so thanks for the help KV because I couldn't find anything before.

The background, yes is distracting. But see I was messing around with the filters (The only thing I know how to make a background with) and that was the end product. I thought I'd finish it off with bubblewrap to give it better quality but that went the wrong way. :o

For the render, I'm still trying to figure out how to get good ones. I just use the eraser tools. I know the hair on the left side was bad.

Tuomas, like I said the point was for it to blend in in the corner. But yes we have different tastes.

I thought that's what you did for the background but I was making sure.

And above all, we all know it's ugly as hell.

LedHead
07-20-2008, 03:09 PM
As for pretty pink, I really just went with White+Red=Pink and the Joker's face. I didn't get too deep into the colors.

You should've uploaded the image of just the joker to Whatsitscolor.

KalashnikoV
07-20-2008, 04:39 PM
This was really ****ing cool when I imagined it out. I noticed even after the background that it was gonna fail epicly hard, though. Anyways, I finished it for ****s and giggles and it's a ****ing eyesore.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h167/kalashnikov1947/lolololmassivefail.png

Seriously, massive fail on my part. The sad thing is that it probably took twice as much work to finish as anything else I've made. There's a lesson to be learned here, though. Keep it simple. The more complexity you involve, the more likely it's going to end up being a tacky piece of ****. Also, all the pics of the Joker are hard to work with. **** that.

LedHead
07-20-2008, 05:01 PM
This was really ****ing cool when I imagined it out. I noticed even after the background that it was gonna fail epicly hard, though. Anyways, I finished it for ****s and giggles and it's a ****ing eyesore.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h167/kalashnikov1947/lolololmassivefail.png


You shouldn't have added those words/red lines in the background. Black with dark red grunge would look way better.

KalashnikoV
07-20-2008, 05:47 PM
You shouldn't have added those words/red lines in the background. Black with dark red grunge would look way better.

I'm aware.

I imagined that having a "why so serious?" background would be badass (and apparently thought that it would somehow be legible...) but it failed miserably.

LedHead
07-20-2008, 06:17 PM
lolz guiz i maed a ****tastic sig.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk161/zoledheadso/Untitled-4.png

SupaFruit
07-20-2008, 09:47 PM
SECRET BUMP!

This was really ****ing cool when I imagined it out. I noticed even after the background that it was gonna fail epicly hard, though. Anyways, I finished it for ****s and giggles and it's a ****ing eyesore.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h167/kalashnikov1947/lolololmassivefail.png

Seriously, massive fail on my part. The sad thing is that it probably took twice as much work to finish as anything else I've made. There's a lesson to be learned here, though. Keep it simple. The more complexity you involve, the more likely it's going to end up being a tacky piece of ****. Also, all the pics of the Joker are hard to work with. **** that.
Still a badass idea. I lol'd at the link.

EDIT: Yes they're hard to work with. I know. Good for practice that way. Here's mine. Nothing much.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll221/SupaFruit/JokerSig3.jpg
You should've uploaded the image of just the joker to Whatsitscolor.
True. Didn't think of that. I did for the text though.

lolz guiz i maed a ****tastic sig.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk161/zoledheadso/Untitled-4.png

Forgot about that. I'll try to work with it.

KV, could you make a signature and post the directions? I'd help me learn some techniques.

LedHead
07-20-2008, 10:24 PM
SECRET BUMP! Ok, can a mod please change the title of this thread to something along the lines of "Post your sigs" or "Post your artwork"? There's good advise for artists in here and I know I'd love to be able to go back and see this. A stick would help as well. Please and thank you.


There's already an art sticky.

SupaFruit
07-20-2008, 10:34 PM
There's already an art sticky.

I've never felt stupider. I'll delete it. Thanks.

KalashnikoV
07-20-2008, 10:36 PM
There's already an art sticky.

Then again, that thread's for actual art, not this quicky job photoshop effects crap. It's debatable.


Supafruit:

I may write you up a tutorial or two if I get the time later tonight or tomorrow, but in the mean time you really ought to just look up some simple grunge/smudge tutorials online. That way you can get it straight from the horse's mouth instead of whatever corrupted version I've come up with.

SupaFruit
07-20-2008, 10:47 PM
Then again, that thread's for actual art, not this quicky job photoshop effects crap. It's debatable.


Supafruit:

I may write you up a tutorial or two if I get the time later tonight or tomorrow, but in the mean time you really ought to just look up some simple grunge/smudge tutorials online. That way you can get it straight from the horse's mouth instead of whatever corrupted version I've come up with.

She's probably right though.

If you do, that would be great for me. I couldn't thank you enough. And I will look that up for sure. I want to make one amazing signature before the trial is up and I'll need all the help I can get.

But PM whatever you come up with if anything. I'll be gone for 5 days, but hopefully checking in.

EDIT: How do you like my new sig? Every time I see it, it looks better. There's an accidental heart in the middle too.

KalashnikoV
07-20-2008, 11:48 PM
Tutorial One: How to make a(n awful) "Grunge" Background

First things first, open a new, blank PSD (I generally go 500x150 for my sigs.) Press D to reset your colors if they’re not at default already, and Filter>Render>Clouds. You can always try it again if you’re not happy with your first result. Some people say it’s good to have a lighter inside and a darker outside, some people say the opposite, and some people (like me) just don’t give a damn.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h167/kalashnikov1947/step1.png

Next, pick a couple brushes you like, lower the opacity, and “grunge” it up. You can go to DeviantArt or a signature website to download more brushes and get (in theory) a better result. While some say this means you really don’t have any skill, you probably don’t have any if you’re going down this brush grunge route anyway (let alone reading a tutorial on how to do it), so it doesn’t matter. Use both black and white in your brushing, otherwise it’ll suck. In that MGS4 sig I made, I used some 100 px effects brush at the bottom of the selection and brushed sidways to get a canvas-like effect, and then a few other brushes to add texture and “burn marks.”

**Note** Many tutorials will suggest doing different brushing in different layers so you can have more control over their respective opacities and other aesthetics. When learning, you probably shouldn’t need to worry about this, (especially because you’ll usually just end up merging down all of the layers when you’re done) but as you become more and more proficient, you may find that this becomes necessary.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h167/kalashnikov1947/step2.png

Normally, this would be the point at which you’d begin working with your render. However, since this is just a background tutorial, we’ll save all the fun of that for another time and skip right to the color balance layer (which should usually go over the render.)
Layer>New Adjustment Layer>Color Balance, being sure to edit not just the midtones but the shadows and highlights as well. Some renders are going to work well with almost every color, but be wary that sometimes you’ll need to cooperate with both your render and your style for a good result.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h167/kalashnikov1947/step3.png

And there you have it, your glorious piece of crap. Who knows, if you're good enough to cover it well with renders, text, and some good finishing effects, it might look passable.

Until next time, assholes.

Mafiaisco
07-21-2008, 01:36 AM
I totally forgot that my computer came with photoshop for some reason. And I started following Kvs amazing tut and realized wtf am I doing listening to KV

Made this badass piece of work
http://i35.tinypic.com/v8kd46.jpg
I know its ****ing great. I am a photo masta

SupaFruit
07-21-2008, 01:58 AM
Thanks KV. Graceful end. Ok so I fixed up the one I just did.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll221/SupaFruit/JokerSig3edit.jpg
Better or worse? Hard to get rid of the white. I went deep with the erasing but didn't come out good.

I totally forgot that my computer came with photoshop for some reason. And I started following Kvs amazing tut and realized wtf am I doing listening to KV

Made this badass piece of work
http://i35.tinypic.com/v8kd46.jpg
I know its ****ing great. I am a photo masta

Actually good. How'd you do the leaves?

loggerbomb
07-21-2008, 01:59 AM
Big improvement.

SupaFruit
07-21-2008, 02:01 AM
Big improvement.

Thanks but I can't get over the white. I guess it adds on a bit.

EDIT: And I had to get that in with the old sig as one layer. Forgot to save as a .PSD also.

Mafiaisco
07-21-2008, 05:32 AM
http://i33.tinypic.com/adzsy8.jpg
I am great. I didn't even I know what I was doing but obviously I am the chosen one.

withouthands
07-21-2008, 05:46 AM
Actually good. How'd you do the leaves?
It's a brush.

http://i33.tinypic.com/adzsy8.jpg
I am great. I didn't even I know what I was doing but obviously I am the chosen one. You are my new source of inspiration in my sig making.

I'm still not making any sigs for anyone else on Hallpass though! :mad:

Mafiaisco
07-21-2008, 05:59 AM
I would look to me too.

SupaFruit
07-21-2008, 10:23 AM
I would look to me too.

Oh so you just use brushes? Here I thought you were a god. But seriously, where do you get good ones? KV mentioned dA as being cheap brushes but I'd like to expand my sigs before the trail is up.

KalashnikoV
07-21-2008, 02:20 PM
http://i33.tinypic.com/adzsy8.jpg
I am great. I didn't even I know what I was doing but obviously I am the chosen one.

You should radial blur that bad boy so we don't have look at Mr. Blunt's photo-cropped edges.

Tuomas
07-21-2008, 03:46 PM
http://i33.tinypic.com/adzsy8.jpg
I am great. I didn't even I know what I was doing but obviously I am the chosen one.

That's frelling hideous. Lern2Sig maf, srsly. lern2crop 2 dood. <_<
Good effort, try harder next time.

Mafiaisco
07-21-2008, 03:50 PM
I dont need to crop good. I am amazing.


I am not serious with sig making i am just bored, so gtfo.

Also tuomas that guy in your sig, take him out and put James Blunt in kthxs.

Tuomas
07-21-2008, 03:52 PM
I dont need to crop good. I am amazing.


I am not serious with sig making i am just bored, so gtfo.

Serious or no, you should at least TRY. It's obvious you didn't, seeing the stuff YOU came up with.

Mafiaisco
07-21-2008, 03:57 PM
Serious or no, you should at least TRY. It's obvious you didn't, seeing the stuff YOU came up with.
I am not trying to impress you, ****.

fluffy0812
07-21-2008, 03:58 PM
I am not trying to impress you, ****.

You did an amazingly good job for not trying.

What did you use?

Mafiaisco
07-21-2008, 04:00 PM
You did an amazingly good job for just trying.

What did you use?
I wasn't trying, I was messing with filters and brushes. And then I saw my awesome creation, for not trying it almost looks like the ****ty sigs Tuomas makes. :o

fluffy0812
07-21-2008, 04:03 PM
I wasn't trying, I was messing with filters and brushes. And then I saw my awesome creation, for not trying it almost looks like the ****ty sigs Tuomas makes. :o

****ty? Look at my sig. That is quality you can not beat.

Mafiaisco
07-21-2008, 04:17 PM
****ty? Look at my sig. That is quality you can not beat.
A picture of New York with your name on it?

fluffy0812
07-21-2008, 04:19 PM
A picture of New York with your name on it?

That's not what I meant. I mean look how clear it is.

KalashnikoV
07-21-2008, 04:33 PM
Guys lay off Maf he's got the best sigs in this thread so far.

Also, SF, go blur tool along the edge of the Joker's face. Trust me.

fluffy0812
07-21-2008, 04:37 PM
Guys lay off Maf he's got the best sigs in this thread so far.

Also, SF, go blur tool along the edge of the Joker's face. Trust me.

I told him he did a good job and he lashed out at me.

Mafiaisco
07-21-2008, 04:43 PM
Guys lay off Maf he's got the best sigs in this thread so far.

Also, SF, go blur tool along the edge of the Joker's face. Trust me.
True fact.

KalashnikoV
07-22-2008, 12:22 AM
Tutorial Two: How add a(n equally awful) Render

Step one: Pick a picture of something you find cool. If I have to explain this further, there is no hope. With any luck, you'll have picked an image where it will be easy to separate your "render" from the background. I'm not going to tell you how to do this for a few reasons: partially because there's several ways to do it and the best way depends on the image at hand, and partially because I'm just a lazy asshole. In the end, what matters is that you have a render with an invisible background. I'll be cliché for this **** and use a Helghan.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h167/kalashnikov1947/Rendererererer.png

KalashnikoV
07-22-2008, 12:23 AM
Step Two: Drag your crappy render onto your crappy background.

Step Three: "Oooh ooh, I know, now we move it under our color balance layer!" No, shut up. We'll get there. Now, chances are your render is too big for your sig, isn't it asshole? Let's fix that first. Press command T to Free Transform (or, conversely, be an asshole and go Edit>Free Transform) and resize/move it until you are pleased.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h167/kalashnikov1947/step203.png

Step Four: "ok now I'll drag it under the color balance." Still no. Jesus Christ. You've probably done a crappy job cropping your render, and it boldly sticks out from the background like a sore ****ing thumb. Drop the opacity, blur the edges more, add a radial blur/gradient, or do whatever you want to ****ing do. I don't care, make it not suck.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h167/kalashnikov1947/step204.png

Step Five: Here we go. Are you ready? We're about to do it! Go on, move your render under the color balance! And? It's not unlikely that it looks like a piece of ****. This is partly because you suck at photoshop, and partly because this color balance was done without the render being considered, so the color changes are all off. This leaves us with a few choices: a) leave the render uncolored b) edit your initial color balance to work with both the background and the render c) add a new color balance layer and edit the other color balance so everything works. It's up to you, I don't give a ****. Just make it look better than it does now.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h167/kalashnikov1947/step205.png

Step Six: This step's optional. Basically, fix anything that's ****ed up and add any render-centric effects that you care about. Some tutorials suggest another layer of brushing over the render, maybe you want your render to be partially transparent and didn't take care of it before, anything that needs to be done. I, for example, used lighting effects to make the Helghan's glowing eyes even more glowy. Jesus I'm original.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h167/kalashnikov1947/step206.png

If you've made it this far, you probably still have a piece of crap. Really, nothing else is to be expected. Good work, jerk off. Once again, until next time.